Electors in California File Lawsuit Over Obama’s Natural Born Status [Constitutional Law]

11/15/2008 03:05:00 AM

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 flagconstitution A case has been filed in California, yes another lawsuit however this one I think has the legs to go the distance, for Obama to prove that he is a natural born citizen.

The only thing I have to say about all this is that it would be just so simple for Obama to earn trust in those of us who do have doubts as to whether he is natural born, and to believe his claims that he is natural born, by simply showing a stupid piece of paper.  It’s that simple.  What Obama does not seem to understand, or believe is that so far there have been at least 8 lawsuits against him, wanting to prove his is natural born, with two still active at this point and now a new suit, and that until he produces the document asked of him, chances are, it’s not going to stop.  Or does he wish to keep dividing the masses of us versus them?  Those that follow him versus those that do not trust him.  Trust is earned over time and actions, it is not automatically given.  There is NO substitute for time and actions.  Did many of you trust Bush when he first went into office?  Did many of you automatically trust Clinton when he went into office?  And for a President-Delegate to not want the trust of the United States citizens, then that alone says quite a lot about the man’s personality and mentality.

This is not so much about Obama being president, as it is that someone is possibly hiding the fact they are not natural born, and thus are not entitled to be President of the United States according to our Nation’s Constitution.  Or is the Constitution, something that is suppose to be the supreme law of the land, nothing more than just a piece of paper anymore?

What is increasingly more interesting about this case, is that the major news outlets, or the MSM, have not picked up on it, yet it seems to be spreading on the “Internez”, like wildfire.


alankeyes A petition has been filed in California by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation on behalf of Alan Keyes (left), the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, along with Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson, both California electors on Thursday, Nov. 13.  Named as defendants in the action are California Secretary of State Debra Bowen, President Delegate Barack Obama, Vice-President Delegate Joe Biden, and a list of California party electors.

bobclatimes424_0[6] The “Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence.  The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.” 

The State of Hawaii considers a “Certificate of Live Birth” a secondary source of identification for the purpose of establishing Hawaiian ancestry.  This is the document that can be seen on the “Fight the Smears'” website.  It is not a “Birth Certificate.”  Thus, the claim alleges that the “Certificate of Live Birth” posted by the Obama campaign cannot be viewed as authoritative, the case alleges since it does not show the hospital of birth, or a doctor’s signature.  [NOTE:  A high resolution scan of the document can be found here and here.

The case also raises the circumstances of Obama’s time during his youth in Indonesia, where he was listed as having Indonesian citizenship.  Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, raising the possibility of Obama’s mother having given up his U.S. citizenship.  Any subsequent U.S. citizenship then, the case claims, would be “naturalized",” not “natural-born.”

The petition is a request for the Superior Court of California in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring Secretary of State Debra Bowen “from both certifying to the governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.” 

The petition states that the California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, and issue a writ barring California’s electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof is produced.

“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal,” the action challenges.

Citing the constitutional requirement that a president be a “natural born” citizen, the case discusses other state and federal court cases regarding “aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Senator Obama.  Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President,” the case said.

“There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process.”

“Since [the Secretary of State, SOS] has, as its core, the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United State of American is received by her.”

“This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.

“To this date, in this regard, SOS has not carried out that fundamental duty.”

In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Keys commented:

“I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office.  Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure.  This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land.  I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt.  This will be good for him and for the nation.”


obamakenyan08rz2 On the “Fight The Smears” website, that was designed to set the “record straight” about Obama.  However, FactCheck.org left a note stating:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire.  As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.  That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

If this is true, then Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

But yet later, FactCheck.org stated that the “certificate of live birth” to be valid.  The thing to remember here is that yes, the “certificate of live birth” may be valid however, under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178, Obama could have been born in Kenya, and been brought back to Hawaii and received this document.  Additionally at that time in Hawaii, if a child was born outside a hospital, the family would have 30 days to apply for a birth certificate.

What makes this important is Obama’s grandmother in Kenya who has stated, and can be heard in the video below during a phone call from the Bishop of Anabaptists Churches of North America, Ron McRae, that Obama was born in Kenya.

Ron McRae: … I would like to see his actual birthplace when I, when I come to Kenya in December.  Uh, was she present when he was, was she present when he was born in Kenya?

Translator to Sarah Obama:  Alikuma zalima Obama (unintelligible)

Kewli Shuhubia:  He is asking her, he wants to know something was ah she present when he was born?

Translator:  Yes.  She says “Yes she was!  She was present when Obama was born.”

Ron McRae:  Okay.



In Obama’s book The Audacity of Hope, pg. 204, Obama states he lived in Indonesia for five years.

“During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia…….”

At that time, only Indonesian citizens were allowed to enroll in public school.  If Obama’s citizenship was switched to Indonesian, and later switched back, he would then be referenced as a “naturalized” citizen, and not an “natural born” and thus, is not eligible for president.


I believe all the above facts themselves warrant an investigation into whether Obama is infact a natural born citizen.  It’s a simple thing.  Produce the original “Birth Certificate” and all is done instead of fueling the fires of doubt against him and wasting taxpayers money in courts.  How can one believe in anyone, if they won’t be truthful, or attempt to gain trust?  Or again, is that what he wants, to divide this nation into believers and non-believers?  Just thoughts to ponder……


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