From Russian With Love, In Alaska, The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming! [End of the U.S. in 2010]

12/30/2008 09:10:00 PM

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Time for a bit of humor….

harris04 Igor Panarin, 50, a former KGB analyst, a professor [Dean] at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, well-known political scholar (in Russia), and author of books such as “Information War in Russia”, “Information War and Election”, Information War and Power”.  He began his career in the KGB in 1976.  In post-Soviet Russia, he got a doctorate in political science, with the topic of his thesis, “Information- psychological providing of national security of Russia”.  He then studied U.S. economics, and worked for FAPSI, then the Russian equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency.  He says he did strategy forecasts for then-President Boris Yeltsin, adding that the details are “classified.”

He also states that Russia facilitated the US independence twice:  during the Katherine the Great rein and the Civil War, when two Russian Navy squadrons weighed anchors at San Francisco Bay and New York and defended the East Coast from the British.

In 1998, he attended a conference in Linz, Austria, devoted to information warfare, the use of data to get an edge over a rival.  It was there, in front of 400 delegates, that he first presented his theory about the collapse of the U.S. in 2010.

“When I pushed the button on my computer and the map of the United States disintegrated, hundreds of people cried out in surprise,” he remembers.  He says most in the audience were skeptical.  “They didn’t believe me.”

IMG_panarin He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysis, he says.  He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S.  When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union.  Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow.  The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.

And since 1998, he has said that the United States will fall in 2010 splitting into six independent pieces.  Renewed interest in his theory as come into the spotlight due to a recent interview with Izvestia, one of Russia’s biggest national dailies.  And those in Russia are listening.

So why does he think this will happen?  “The dollar is not secured by anything.  The country’s foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt.  By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion.  Now it is more than 11 trillion.  This is a pyramid that can only collapse.”  Panarin calls U.S. foreign debt “ a pyramid scheme,” and predicts China and Russia would usurp Washington’s role as a global finance regulator.

Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar.  Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces.

The White House’s reaction to Panarin’s forecast at a December news conference was a “I am perplexed and therefore I think I will have to decline to comment,” from Dana Perino, which received laughter from the press.

From the November, 2008 interview: [Video, in English/Russian from Russia Today]

Q[Izvestia]:  Will the entire American economy collapse?

A [Panarin]:  It is collapsing now.  Three out of the five largest and oldest banks on Wall Street ceased to exist because of the financial crisis; and the other two are on the verge of surviving.  Their losses are the largest in history.  Now we are talking about replacing the regulation system in the world:  America will no longer be the world regulator.

Q:  Which country will replace it?

A:  Two countries are making a claim for this role:  China with its large reserves, and Russia as a country which could play the role of a regulator on the Eurasian territory. … The gold reserves of Chian come to more than 2 trillion dollars.  It is the largest creditor to the USA.

Q:  What makes you believe in the possible division of the country?

A:  There are a number of reasons.  First, the financial problem of the USA will increase.  Millions of citizens have already lost their savings.  Prices and unemployment keep growing.  General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse which means that entire town will end up unemployed.  The governors are not harshly demanding money from the federal center.  Complaints are growing.  They’ve been restrained so far by the presidential election and by hope that Obama could perform a miracle.   However, by spring it will become clear that a miracle will not happen.

The second factor is the vulnerability of the political mechanism in the USA.  There is uniform legislation on the territory of the country.  There aren’t even general uniform traffic rules.  The skeleton which keeps the USA together is fragile.  Event eh armed forces in Iraq are represented by the non-citizens of the United States to a large extent.  They fight for the promise of American citizenship.  Thus the army, as a melting pot has stopped fulfilling a consolidating function for the American state.  And finally, the split of the elite has made itself especially clear under the conditions of the crisis.

Q:  How will the country be divided?  Mexico is obviously in the south.  What else?


A:  There are six part altogether.  The first one is the Pacific Ocean coast of the USA.  I can give you an example: 53% of San Francisco’s population is Chinese.  The Governor of Washington state was an ethnic Chinese; its capital, Seattle, is called the gate of the Chinese emigration to the USA>  It is obvious that the Pacific Ocean coast has been gradually influenced by China.  The second part in the south is definitely the Mexicans.  In some areas, Spanish has become the official language already.  Then comes Texas which has been openly fighting for independence.  The Atlantic coast has a totally different ethnos and mentality.  It could be split into two parts as well.  And then we are left with two central depressed areas.  May I remind you that five central states where the Indians live had announced their independence.  It was perceived as a joke or a kind of a political show.  But the fact remains the same.  Canada is making a strong influence in the North.  By the way, Russia may require returning Alaska, as it had been rented out… [And Hawaii goes to Japan or China.]


Q:  Could you tell us about the division of the elite.  Are these democrats and the republicans?

A:  No, that is not right.  There are two groups in the US authorities.  The first one may be called the globalists, or the Trotskyites.  Leon Trotsky had already formulated their idea in the past:  it’s not Russia that we need, but a world revolution.  Soviet Russia was viewed by them as a base for control over the world.  The second group is the statists which want prosperity for their country.  Representatives of these two clans are present in both Democratic and Republican Parties.  Take voting for the anti-crisis plan of Paulson, which was suggested by the Republican administration, for example.  It was voted down in the Congress by the Republicans first of all.

Q:  Who is in charge of the clans?

A:  The key persons of the globalists are Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Vice President Dick Cheney.  The key persons of the statists are Robert Gates, Defense Secretary; Michael Hayden, CIA Director; and Admiral Mike McConnell, director of national intelligence.  Globalists are mainly the financial elite, and statists are the armed forces, special services and military and industrial complex.  Recently the confrontation between these two clans have become open.  In December last year the statists presented a reported which completely denied the existence of the nuclear program in Iran.  It directly contradicted conclusions made by Condoleezza Rice and Dick Cheney.  The second important event took place at the hearings of the US Congress concerning the 5-day war in the Caucasus.  The globalists represented by Condoleezza Rice insisted that Russia had started the war an d that it would be punished for it.  Georgia was the project of Condoleezza.  And representatives of the intelligence community presented a diametrically opposite statement:  that Georgia had started the war.  We see an open confrontation between very outstanding political figures.

Q:  And who’s Obama company?

A:  The statists with Gates in charge were the key players who had enabled Obama to win.  They are demanding that he change the general line in return.  IN this light, a very interesting factor is that Gates the Republican is viewed as the most important candidate as to whether he remains the US Defense Secretary or becomes the Secretary of State.  This is the influence of the statists on the President.  By the way, the first session which Obama held was with the American Intelligence community.


Perhaps the most famous was when Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev promising before the United Nations to “bury” the United States and again in his famous “kitchen debates” telling Richard Nixon that the superiority of the Soviet Union would overtake the U.S. and the Soviets would say “Dasvidania” to the U.S.

In the “Kitchen Debate”, which took place in 1955, then Vice-President Nixon and Khrushchev discussed the merits of each of their respective economic systems, capitalism and communism.  While Nixon focused on American technology such as supermarkets filled with foods, dishwashers, lawnmowers, makeup, cake mixes, TV dinners, Pepsi and the washing machine, Khurshchev  stressed that the focus on “things that matter” rather than luxury was more important.



Back in November, I blogged about Gerald Celente Predicts Total Collapse of Economy and Revolution by 2012.



This guy is really clueless about many parts of the United States and is nothing more than Communist propaganda.  He obviously doesn’t realize that here in the US, states are allowed to make their own laws, but you as a regular civilian don’t need “papers” to cross the border to enter another state.

Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina and North Carolina in the same country as New York or Maine and them being part of the European Union?  Yea, as IF.  Obviously he doesn’t know much about that little thing called the Mason-Dixon line and the south believes it will “Rise Again” versus the North.

And Idaho and Utah, with the Mormons being a part of the same country as California, under Chinese influence.  Forgive me with a valley girl expression but, “As If!  Like, I am SO sure, ya know?”

And Georgia, Alabama and Louisiana becoming part of Mexico….. umm.. yea.. okay.  I can just see it now, deep in the heart of Dixie, Mexicans in the bayou, drinking Budweiser, and four-by-fourin in the mud listening to Alan Jackson singing “Chattahoochee”.

And Mexico not taking California?  Heck, hasn’t that pretty much already happened?  Or will the Pacific and the “South TX region”  “sell” California, along with Arizona, and New Mexico back to Mexico.  Or would Mexico just say it’s theirs, and we stole it.  Wait.. that’s already happened too….

And then there’s Texas.  As IF they would even become part of Mexico, remember they have been screaming about their own independence for years.  To expect Texas to submit to Mexico?  Talk about the start of a new MX-TX war….

And Ohio being part of the same “country” as Montana?  Sha… right!  Maybe part of the NE but not the Midwest.

I wonder what Sarah Palin would have to say about Russia taking back Alaska.  NYET?

Perhaps Panarin got hold of some bootlegged Vodka, and is suffering from a permanent case of the DTs….. and his years with the KGB and communist ways are showing.  And he’s trying to shed light on the US failing, while trying to minimize the fact that Russia’s own economy is in failure with his “Nothing to see here, move along and look at the US falling apart” story.  Sorry, no “Red Dawn” fantasy here.

But ultimately, I think Panarian has been watching reruns of Jericho lately, where nuclear detonations around the US spirals the country into division, with one country based in Cheyenne, WY and the other in TX.


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