Misery Index

ICNA & ICNASE

ICNA has regional chapters around the country.  One group located in Chicago, is currently placing ads on CTA buses for learning about Islam as they want more people to learn about their faith, according to the ICNA national website.  However, the Chicago Tribune says that the group Gain Peace is the organization responsible for this.  Here’s a Fox News video on the topic.  A similar campaign was also run on Seattle buses, South Florida buses and on NYC subways.  With the NYC promo, Imam Siraj Wahhaj was chosen as the pitchman in a YouTube video for “The Subway Project”.  Wahhaj was named by federal officials in 1995 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a plot to blow up city landmarks, although he was never formally charged.

Obviously this organization is serious about converting everyone to Islam.

But this isn’t the organization that is in question at this moment.  That one is ICNASE, with SE meaning SouthEast, located in Atlanta, Georgia.

ICNASE dot NET recently posted what appeared to be a political site advocating for the 2012 reelection of Obama, a blatant violation of ICNA’s status as a tax-exempt organization.  Up until last week, as recent as Dec 25 according to Google cache, icnase.net was being used as a political campaign site for the 2012 reelection of Obama.  Across the top of the site’s webpage hovered an official Obama campaign banner.  Also on the homepage was a video entitled “Obama 2012.”  It discussed the accomplishments of the first Obama administration – how Obama made health care more affordable, how he made it easier for Americans “to live the American Dream,” and how he brought soldiers home from the war.  All this, while Obama hasn’t even begun to serve his first term yet.  The video ended with a boy on a bicycle asking the question, “Can we keep this country moving forward, if we reelect President Obama?”  and a chorus of children replying, “Yes, we can.” 

The webpage has been removed, however it can still be seen via Google’s cache. The video is still playable from the webpage, and is hosted on YouTube.  The organization who uploaded the video is “MoveOn.org”, a liberal advocacy group that was set up against President Bush.  This video seems to have come from MoveOn’s  contest “Obama in 30seconds”, paid for by MoveOn.org’s Political Action group, for the best user-contributed 30-second-spot Obama commercial.  This video however, did not win the contest.

Now, according to the IRS, “Violating this ban [of  using a tax-exempt organization for political campaigning] may result in denial or revocation of the organization’s tax-exempt status.”  Obviously if ICNA is the registered owner of the domain, with ties to ICNASE, then the organization is in violation of said law.  However, this does not seem to be the case, and yes I am disputing what Joe Kaufman has published.

DOMAIN REGISTRANTS

icnase.net
According to Network Solutions WHOIS database, the registrant of icnase.net is an woman named Zakiya Omar of Decatur, GA, with an email address of lawrenceatl@gmail.com and is hosted by 1&1 Internet Inc out of Chesterbrook, PA. 

According to her bio on Associated Content, she is a “48 year old mom of 4 with a wealth of experience in the fashion/beauty related industries.”  Her LinkedIn profile says she owns “sistah!” in the Greater Atlanta area.  According to Manta, the Sistah S Boutique is located in Newton, GA has 2 employees, and has measly yearly sales of only $86,000.  According to Geni, from where the picture is found, this is the correct Omar, from Decatur, GA, and her full name is Zakiya Ahzar Omar. Her profile can also be found on Genebase. 

Omar is also the registrant of the website of the organization Muslim Americans for Obama ‘08 [now defunct and unable to find a cache version].  Muslim Americans for Obama had a blog on the Obama & Biden campaign website.  Many websites state there was originally a  blog about “the Senate pro-Israeli zionist hawk Joe Lieberman,” however, it seems that entry is no longer on the blog.  In that blog was sharp criticism aimed at Obama for getting too cosy with the Israel lobby.  As stated on the blog, that last part was derived from information founded on Electronic Intifada (EI), a terror apologist website based in Chicago, Il.  According to the site’s co-founder, Ali Abunimah, Senator Obama once told him, regarding Abunimah’s anti-American and anti-Israel writings, to “Keep up the good work!”  Omar also has a blog on the Obama & Biden campaign website.

At Militant Islam Monitor, an article describes what was on the “Muslim Americans for Obama ‘08” website:

On the Muslim Americans for Obama '08 site, one will find a list of upcoming events, issues and solutions, details on how to join, a links section to sites of interest, and of course, a link to the blog. There's even a toll-free number to call for more information.

Within the events section, a number of the listings pertain to conferences and conventions being sponsored by organizations that have a number of extremist and/or terrorist ties. One is the 44th Annual ISNA National Convention, held in Rosemont, Illinois.

ISNA or the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) was recently named an "Unindicted Co-conspirator" for a Dallas trial that dealt with the funding of millions of dollars to Hamas. Beginning in December of 2003, ISNA was the subject of a Senate investigation into the financing of terror groups overseas. The group currently uses its website to propagate violent hatred against Jews and Christians.

Another of the events listed is the 32nd ICNA-MAS Convention, held in Hartford, Connecticut. ICNA or the Islamic Circle of North America, in August of 2006, was the top donor to a Pakistani charity that, at the time, had given $99,000 to the head of Hamas, Khaled Mashaal. As well, four people associated with the ICNA-related ‘Houston Taliban' were arrested and charged with jihad training with firearms, for the purpose of joining the Taliban to attack Americans overseas.

MAS or the Muslim American Society, like ISNA, uses the web to spread violent hatred against non-Muslims. In April of 2004, MAS's Communications Director, Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer, was sentenced to 20 years in prison for his activities within the ‘Virginia Jihad Network,' a group that was conspiring with Laskar-e-Taiba (LeT) to attack Americans and Indians abroad.

Yet another event listing is the 2007 MANA National Convention, held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. MANA or the Muslim Alliance in North America was founded in May of 2000, in response to the arrest of cop killer H. Rap Brown, a.k.a. Jamil Al-Amin. The President (Amir) of the organization is Siraj Wahhaj, an individual that was named by the U.S. government an "Unindicted Co-conspirator" in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

According to Muslim Americans for Obama '08, it took part in "VOTER REGISTRATION/INFORMATION BOOTHS," at each of the above venues. Taking that into consideration, since Muslim Americans for Obama '08 is officially part of the Barack Obama for President team – or as the campaign puts it, "Community" – one can conclude that Senator Obama and/or his campaign had sanctioned its attendance at these events.

And that would mean, as well, that the following "Issues & Solutions" found on the site have also been approved by Obama and/or his campaign, possibly soon to be incorporated in his speeches:

• Institute a Law to allow Muslim Employees to take an hour off from work for Friday Jummah Prayer.
• Make the 2 Eid's recognized National Holidays on Calendars with days off from work.
• Provide prayer areas suitable for Salah and Jummah, in public and private facilities. (i.e. Malls, Airports, Universities and government buildings.)

Found on the right side of the website's homepage are a series of links, most of which deal with information about Senator Obama and the campaign. One of them, though, is a link to Aswat Al-Islam, a radical Islamic multimedia outlet. Muslim Americans for Obama '08 lists it as "Quran (Audio) English Translation."

Aswat Al-Islam features the works of such Islamist luminaries as: "Uninidicted Co-conspirators" of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Siraj Wahhaj and Bilal Philips; anti-Christian bigot, Ahmed Deedat; pro-wife beating author, Jamal Badawi; suicide bombing supporter, Yusuf Al-Qaradawi; and the chief cleric of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, who has called for the murders of Jews, Christians and Americans and has described Jews as "the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the killers of prophets, and the grandsons of monkeys and pigs," Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais.

According to Muslim Americans for Obama '08, Senator Barack Obama "is the BEST candidate for the job in 2008." But being the best candidate should have as a requisite keeping company that is worthy of respect. Recently, Obama has been cited for having a racist and anti-Israel pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and a campaign advisor that has expressed sympathy for Hamas and Hezbollah, Robert Malley.

icnase.com and icnase.org
According to Network Solutions WHOIS search, the registrant for icnase.com and icnase.org are the same person, Ali Salim of Marietta, GA, ALSO hosted by 1&1 Internet Inc out of Chesterbrook, PA, the same company as icnase.net.

The com domain was created in 2003, changed in 2008 and expires in 2010.
The org domain was created in 2008, last updated in 2008 and expires in 2010.

According to DomainTools, Ali Salim owns about 15 other domains however, this information is only available via purchase.

QUESTION

Perhaps ICNASE is not responsible for the posting on the dot net domain, since they are owned by different people however, it is interesting to note that all three websites are registered to two people in the greater Atlanta area, and both are managed by 1 and 1 out of Pennsylvania.  And a dot net domain is generally not used for non-profit organizations, dot orgs are however.  But again, they are owned by two separate individuals.  As of this moment, the only connection that can be made between Salim and Omar is the use of the letters “icnase” and the use of the same hosting company.  But it’s interesting to note, they are using the same hosting company, based out of Pennsylvania, for two people who both live in the greater Atlanta, GA area.

I haven’t however, found anything to show that Omar is active in ICNASE in Atlanta, or with ICNA in the United States.

Sounds like there is a radical running around in the ICNASE, but ICNASE isn’t innocent either, in the larger picture.

ICNA AND TERRORIST TIES WITH JI, BIN LADEN AND HAMAS?

[Hat Tip to Joe Kaufman however, for much of this information.]

ICNA seems to have ties to the extremist Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islam group who spawns numerous radical movements around the world,  charged with the responsibility of spreading Islam across the world to create an Islamic world order.  [How interesting that ICNA seems to be pushing an ad campaign in cities for Islam.]  One of the Muslim Brotherhoods main organizations underneath it, is Hamas.  Because Hamas is on the State Departments list of terrorists, any group who helps finance it, is to be shut down, according to law.

If you look at the domain information for ICNA’s official website (as well as the site for Why Islam), one will find that the site is registered to farrukh.net, a former mirror (replica) site of JI’s media division. Farrukh.net is registered to Raza Farrukh out of New Jersey. 

Today, farrukh.net is being used to showcase the works of Maulana Muhammad Yusuf Islahi, a Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) leader.  And ICNA does not seem to hide this fact they have a relationship with Islahi.  In an article from Nov, 2008 titled “ICNA Welcomes New Muslims to Radicalize”.  This article is pretty damming about ICNA.

The central strategy of Islamists in the West is lawful Jihad or soft Jihad. 

One of the key tools used by Islamist to spread their message and recruit individuals is that of aggressive proselytizing – thus distinguishing Muslim converts who are on a spiritual mission to Islam from those being indoctrinated towards a political ideology is a key task.

The language restates the doctrine of a website run by Jamaat-e-Islami Hindi, the Indian branch of Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), a major Islamist political party based in the countries of Pakistan and Bangladesh, as well as India and the South Asian immigrant diaspora. 

The desire to “establish” and “propagate” Islam in the public sphere by both ICNA and JI, is a clear indicator of its theorcratical political intentions.

Moverover, links between the two organizations are easy to confirm.  Maulana Muhammad Yusuf Islahi, sits on the central board of the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind website, and is also on the board of “Why Islam,” a project of ICNA.  Islahi also leads Muslims in prayer in a Why Islam produced video at the end of July called ‘Why Islam Introduction.’

Why Islam also has a website that provides information to the public about Islam.  Such efforts at dawah (Islamic proselytizing) are utilized by ICNA to spread its message that Islam has the answers to society’s problems, as it’s mission statement suggests.  The problem is that it also promotes anti-Semitism, misogyny and homophobia.

In summary, ICNA is a front for JI, a violent movement that advocates revolution and the erection of an Islamic order.

In 2000 at a “Unity Meeting” that took place in New York between ICNA and and its Baltimore-based rival, Jamaat al-Muslimeen. [pdf] Speaking for the side of ICNA, in his native language of Urdu, was none other than the President (Amir) of JI, Qazi Hussain Ahmad (who is still the head of JI). During the meeting, he stressed the need for “participation in Jihad;” he stated that “Islam must be translated into political dominance;” and he said that “the sword and the Quran go together…” His sharp rhetoric was not unusual, given his public support for the Taliban and his numerous get-togethers with Osama bin Laden.

Ahmad’s communication with the head of al-Qaeda are serious, but his organization’s dealing with Hamas are much MUCH more dangerous.  And ICNA’s involvement in this is apparent, as well.  Jamaat-e-Islami has a charity located in karachi, Pakistan called the Al-Khidmat Foundation (AKF).  AKF touts its work in such fields as: education, health care, and distribution of medical and food supplies.  On Aug 17, 2006, JI announced on its website that AKF had presented a check for six-million rupees [about $100 grand] to Khaled Mashaal, the head of Hamas.  In addition, JI stated that it “delivered a special message” from JI President Ahmad to Mashaal.  The announcement went on to say, “Khalid Meshaal thanked Pakistani nation for sending the donation to the Palestinian brethren in this hour of need.  Hamas leader assured the delegation that struggling Palestinians will not relinquish their just Jihad and continue to wage it until the First Qibla [Jerusalem] is liberated from Zionist yoke.”

In order to provide money to Hamas, AKF had to raise it.  So the question becomes where did it get the money from?  The answer is on AKF’s website, where the charity lists its donors.  ICNA Relief USA and ICNA Relief Canada are it’s two top donors.  ICNA’s Helping Hand is also on the list.  Additionally, the Al-Khidmat Welfare Society (AKWS), AKF’s sister organization, lists ICNA Relief and Helping Hand as “partner” organizations (along with their logos), out of a list of only three organizations, the final one being Muslim Aid UK, a London-based JI charity.

Providing material support to Hamas, a State Department designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, is illegal.  Given the admission by Jamaat-e-Islami that it has provided significant funds to Hamas through its charity Al-Khidmat Foundation and given that ICNA, the American affiliate of JI, is the top donor of AKR, should conclude that ICNA should be shut down due to its terrorist ties.

OTHER INTERESTING COINCIDENCES WITH TERRORISTS

In 2003, insinuations of links between JI and al-Qaeda were also alleged.  Pakistan’s Interior Minister Makhdoom Faisel Saleh Hayat spoke about alleged links between JI and al-Qaeda, "All of the activists and terrorists who have been apprehended in recent months have had links to the Jamaat-e-Islami, whether we have arrested them in Lahore or here or Karachi … They have been harboring them.”

In 2004, Naeem Baig, Secretary General of ICNA lauded convicted terror supporter Fawaz Damra at a press conference.  Damra, a fundraiser for Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the founder of al-Qaeda’s headquarters in Brooklyn, NY, prior to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing had been found guilty, of providing false information on an immigration form when he obtained American citizenship in 1994.  He would be later deported.  Baig stated, “He is a well-respected imam in the Muslim community.  We respect his scholarship and we invited him to the program and we would like to listen to him and what he has to say.”

In July, 2007, there was a protest on the US to freeze ICNA’s funds and to place Jamaat-e-Islami on the list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations.  The protest was held outside the center where ICNA and the Muslim American Society (MAS) were celebrating their 32nd Annual Convention in Hartford, Connecticut.  At the time, Naeem Baig, Secretary General of ICNA stated, “Islamic Circle of North America is a U.S. based Islamic organization.  We have no relations – no links – to any organization or any country outside the United States.”

RANT ON

So, the page with the Obama for 2012 isn’t necessarily attached with ICNASE however, it does seem that a radical Islamic is within their midst, but that would be nothing unusual based upon ICNA’s relationships with known terrorists and terrorist groups.

And ICNA’s main purpose, along with its '”associations” with JI and the Muslim Brotherhood, seem to be to “save” us all by converting us to Islam. [Yea, can anyone who knows me see me walking around in a veil and keeping my mouth shut?  Yea.. AS IF.  I might be crazy, but I’m NOT stupid enough to be interested in being subservient to every man on the face of the planet.  Just one thank you..]

What I do not understand is why if there is a direct link to ICNA donations being sent to Hamas, why the State Department didn’t shut them down prior?  And the same for Helping Hands.

Is this another case of being “lost in the system” and allowed to continue with operation as normal, just like Sheikh Salah Sultan being allowed back in the United States over and over again?

And I find it interesting that ICNA believes that only Muslims would have ruling positions, who pushed for Obama being elected in the last campaign and one person is already pushing for the reelection of Obama for 2012, using the ICNASE abbreviation, amid all the claims that Obama is a Muslim, yet he states he has always been Christian, well.. at least as long as Reverend “KKK” White has been in the picture.  Isn’t that interesting……….

V838 is a star, a variable star to be exact. This means that it’s apparent brightness as seen from Earth changes over time for various reasons.  Its located about 20,000 light years from our Sun, and something strange has happened to it starting in early 2002.

The picture above is actually a 1651x1651 HD picture of the star.  It’s really something to look at.

Originally, it was believed to be a typical nova eruption.  A nova eruption is a nuclear explosion caused by accretion of hydrogen onto the surface of a white dwarf star. 

However, over time, it was then realized to be something completely different.  Usually during a nova, a star ejects its outer layers and a hot core is exposed and the star dims.  This is not what ultimately happened.

V838 did start to dim, as expected however, then the star began to brighten again and ultimately returned to its original brightness  and then brightened to 600,000 times its initial intensity and briefly outshown all others in the Milky Way Galaxy. 

What is additionally odd about it, is that it isn’t hot and eruptive in the manner of a supernova or nova.  Instead, it remains cool at its surface, in comparison to others in the “star world”. 

And the reason or understanding for the outburst is still unknown.  There are some theories to what happened, including “planet swallowing”, but the truth is, no one knows.

The planet itself suddenly grew so large that if placed in the center of our solar system, it would engulf Jupiter.

What you see above is a time sequence of Hubble Space Telescope images of the light echo around V838 Mon, taken between May 2002 and October 2004.  In these pictures, V838 grows from 4 to 7 light-years.  Dust is expanding at 223,700 mph.

What you see above here are a continuation of the evolution of the light echo around the star.  These were taken in 2005 and 2006.  The picture above can be viewed in a 1280x905 size.  Larger sizes are available on the European Homepage for the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope.

Below is an animation of the morph between a number of Hubble images, showing the light echoes expanding around the stars.  It’s pretty incredible.

And just in another comparison of size, the image below is called the Hubble Ultra Deep Field.  Starting in late 2003, astronomers pointed Hubble at a tiny, relatively empty part of our sky, and created an exposure nearly 12 days long over a four-month period.  This is the result.  At least ten thousand galaxies are in this picture that range from 1 to 13 billion light-years away from earth.  To put this all in perspective, the tip of a pen is about 1 millimeter wide, and at arm’s length pointed towards the night sky, it would cover the 10,000 galaxies seen in the Ultra Deep Field.  Yet we as a civilization seem to think we are the best, brightest, smartest and only people in the entire universe.  Are we as a civilization, based upon our history, really befitting of being held in that high regard or ourselves?

THE CONSPIRACY

One good website to use for an example of the conspiracy that FEMA is preparing for half-a-million bodies, is "The American Freedom Foundation".  On their page they rant "FEMA Body Containers" and "If these locations are know, why have patriot groups or individuals not taken them out?"  BTW, if anyone close to you has disappeared, according to the UAFF, it is because "Assassination of U.S. Citizens who are on the "RED LIST" will Commence on 10/1/2008!"  Oh, and they also have a link to a video titled "Was The Katrina Disaster Planned" and "FEMA:  The Plan to Kill America."

Oh and lets not forget about Alex Jones' Infowars, that states "Well, apparently the Government is expecting a half million people to die relatively soon..."

Then there is the mentality that "We are being told that these 'camps' are for terrorists or an influx of illegal aliens."  "I believe in the Bible and I believe that we are in the last days; the signs are all around us," found on Media Take Out, who claims "The Most Visited Black Website In The World."

Along the way I found the mentality that the NWO was going to take out 90% of the population, that those who were on the infamous "lists" would end up in one of these, or that the government is planning on a bio-terrorism attack.

THE VIDEOS

Here’s a short sampling of videos found on the subject.

For this one, turn your volume down at the beginning.  An air raid siren is bad enough, but a computerized version of an air raid siren is annoying

THE LOCATION IN GEORGIA

THE SEARCH

So lets take a look at some of the pictures that are posted out on the web of the Georgia Location.

Some of the first thoughts after looking at these pictures was that either these were for storage, or in fact they could hold a body.  But one thing bothered me in this, they are rather large to hold a single body.  Now what little I know about caskets is that due to some new EPA regulations, and some new cemetery regulations that caskets must be placed into what is called a vault in the ground.  So, I decided to find out what I could about vaults and their relationship to a casket.

A "funeral vault" according to "Free Patents Online" is that Patent 4845906 is a "two piece burial vault comprised of a cooperating pair of high density, molded polystrene members which are adapted to be frictionally, forcibly coupled together to surround, seal and enclose a conventional casket."  In other words, they are grave liners that is placed in the ground before a casket is lowered into the ground. Once the casket is in the ground, then the top is sealed and the grave is covered.

So the casket is placed inside the funeral vault to protect it from water penetrating and from the ground collapsing over time as the casket deteriorates  So the first thought after learning this was that FEMA or the NWS plans on killing us, but they are nice enough to give us a casket to be buried in.  This made absolutely no sense.  I will use Nazi Germany as an example, since many seem to compare these FEMA caskets and killing the population with it, that those who were executed or sent to the gas chamber were either cremated or buried in mass graves.  And even then, later those that had been buried in mass graves were exhumed and then their bodies were burned.  So this made absolutely no sense.  Why would our government want to kill us, and then give us a decent burial?

And in the case of a pandemic, since the vault's only real purpose to to protect the contents, and the elements from getting in, and doesn't seem to be a good choice to seal in bacteria or a virus, again, this made no sense in addition to the things are just too big to hold a single body.

But half a million of these things.  That's quite a LOT of funeral vaults to be in one place.  Now we all know that the Federal Government buys things in bulk, but buying half a million funeral vaults just in case?  That seemed rather extreme.  But then again, I thought, if you think on the scale of a biological attack on a major city, half a million people seems realistic, and may even might not be enough.  And why just outside Atlanta, GA.  Alex Jones rants that the CDC is located in Atlanta, so did the CDC purchase a half million funeral vaults at a central location.  Theoretically, the funeral vaults could be placed on a truck, and into the belly of a C-130 off to anywhere, and arrive in literally hours anywhere in the Continental United States within hours.

So I felt I needed to find out exactly who in our Federal Government was buying these things.

FEDERAL PURCHASING

On the web, many conspiracy website claim that the company that makes these funeral vaults is Polyguard and Co, who's parent company is Rocky Mountain Products.  So I took a look on the Federal Spending website and searched for Polyguard.  And I found that the Department of Veterans Affairs was in fact purchasing these funeral vaults from Polyguard.  In the first quarters of FY2008, the Department of Veterans Affairs made 25 transactions (not products) for a grand spending total of $463,861.00, which represented about 12% of Polyguard & Co.'s business.  The total purchase amount from FY2000 to FY2008 (first 2 quarters of 2008 only) was nearly $6 million with the largest amount spent in FY 2005 at $1.1 million, and the smallest amount in FY2001 when none were purchased.  Transactions for the first two quarters of FY2008 ranged from $732 up to $73,250.

Looking at the transaction data all the vault liners were sent to the same address. 

So the Federal Government does purchase vault liners through the Department of Veterans Affairs from Polyguard.  But what many people don't know is that the Federal Government pays for the burial of any veteran.  And these gave liners made by Polyguard are intended to bury veterans in national cemeteries.  In a Aloha Chapter of the Military Officers Association of America newsletter [PDF] from Hawaii, Miles Okamura, Cemetery Operations Manager, Hawaii State Veterans Cemetery, Office of Veterans Services, described the Hawaii Veterans Cemetery-Kaneohe as a State Funded Cemetery for Veterans.  There is a $300 burial/inurnment fee that spouses/dependents pay and cost for the veteran is covered by the VA.  "Casket burials now require Polyguard Burial Vaults at the cost of $220 for family members and no charge for the Retiree, Veteran or Active Duty personnel.  The vaults were required to prevent the burial site from settling and collapsing following the burial."

Additionally, the vault liners that the VA purchases are not the same type as the ones sitting in GA. The ones that Polyguard makes would be deserving and befitting of that of a Veteran, not some a plain black vault.  And would the Federal Government kill half a million people, and then provide a "casket" for them, that appears to be top of the line?

So why would the VA keep funeral vaults in GA, when they are sent to Afton, WY?  So I decided to take a look around Afton, WY and found the site, in WY where the VA keeps the funeral vaults stored.  This is nothing more than a legitimate location for VA storage of funeral vaults located at 42.750018, -110.936857, contrary to MANY conspiracy theories of an additional FEMA casket location.

Additionally, Alex Jones InfoWars contacted Polyguard and this is their response.

Polyguard and Co.
Afton, WY 83110
1-800-654-1067

To Whom this May Concern:

As you all know, death is one of those issues that we all fear yet we all will go through it at some time in our life and we have most all experienced a loved one passing away.  In fact there is as average of 2.5 million deaths occurring each year.  Some are cremated and some are buried.  Most burials require an outside burial container to go around the casket to keep the ground from settling and the aesthetics of the cemetery beautiful with the least amount of maintenance needed.  Until about 30 years or so ago, the only outside burial containers available were concrete or wooden boxes.  Because of modern technology, there are now other alternatives to concrete such as fiberglass or polymers (plastic).

I am not sure how Polyguard became associated with the burial vaults that are stored in Georgia.  Those vaults are manufactured by our competitors in Georgia.  However, the manufacturers own the property they are stored on and there is no big secret surrounding the vaults.  Because of the manufacturing costs and the ability to manufacturers 2 parts probably ever 2-5 minutes, once the process begins, to be cost effective you manufacture until your raw products are gone.  This creates inventory that can be rotated and used as needed.

In the funeral service industry, there is a program called "pre-need" which allows families to go to a funeral home or cemetery and pre-pay for their funeral merchandise or services.  I would guess that most of these vaults have been pre-sold and they are meeting the requirement of the storage program set forth by the manufacturing company and the Federal Trade Commission who governs funeral service.  Because we do not own the vaults and are not the manufacture of the vaults, I cannot tell you those numbers for sure.

Many of you keep referencing a patent for a cremation container.  This product never even made it to the market as far as I know.  If it did, it is not the same product that is being stored at the manufacturers storage facility in Georgia.  DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO ITEMS!!!

If this information does not help ease your mind, you are welcome to call us.

Debbie Sainz
Polyguard & Co., LLC.

So this lead me to a dead end on Polyguard however, I had a new clue!  A similar company in Georgia in the same state the “FEMA caskets” were located.  It was time to do more looking.

ANOTHER COMPANY

I learned there was a company that made burial vaults, and they just happen to be located just out of Atlanta, GA.  Right down the road from where the alleged FEMA casket site is located.  That company is Vantage Products Corporation.  On their website, you can find the exact same burial vault, as is seen in the "FEMA casket" site.

 

The Basic Ultima
"Engineered to deliver unprecedented strength-to-weight makes Ultima safer to handle and inter in any weather conditions or cemetery terrain.  The superior V-locking seal system seals out the elements for ultimate protection, providing the peace of mind that families expect."

And I learned that this company has been trying to debunk the "FEMA casket" site theory.

Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey said that the theories regarding the property, and what's on it, aren't quite accurate.  According to Lacey, there are about 50,000 of the burial vaults on the property which Vantage leases, located at 1200 Madison Industrial Boulevard.  The land is leased from Conyers Welding & Supply and has for four or five years, a fact that Conyers Welding & Supply has confirmed.  Conyers Welding took over the lease when the property was purchased from Robert Usury in 2000.  Usury purchased the property in 1989, according to the information portal provided by the Morgan County Tax Assessor's Office and the Morgan County Online Public Property Portal.

As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.  "It's no where near the quantity they talk about on the Internet,"  Lacy has said.  This quantity of burial vaults, Vantage's Standard Air Seal in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacy calls the funeral industry's "pre-need".  This "pre-need" occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesn't have to go through the additional stress of making arrangements.  When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.  So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.

Additionally, long time residents say the burial vaults have been there for over 10 years.

From:  MLacy@VantageProducts.com
Subject:  Fw:  Enquiry
Date:  29 July 2008 05:48:44 BDT
To: [Redacted]

[Redacted]

The property on Lions Club Road in Madison, Georgia is leased by Vantage Products.

The product stored on the property are standard burial vaults, please see our web page for information on this product - www.vantageproducts.com

The majority of cemeteries across the United States require the use of a burial vault when a body is interred.  The use of a burial vault, plastic or concrete, is to prevent the collapse of the ground in the cemetery and to protect the casket placed inside.

In the funeral and/or death care industry there is a common practice of people making their funeral arrangements prior to death.  Many people like to make their own selections for the casket and burial vaults that will be used at the time of their death.  Once this selection has been made the local funeral home that has made arrangements can purchase the burial vault product from Vantage Products and we will store it for them until that person dies.

We maintain detailed records of ownership of the products and require a certificate of ownership to be sent to use before products can be released.  Additionally, we are annually audited by several states including Georgia to insure that we have all of the products that our records indicate and that are on file with each of the participating states.

These products are not owned by any one individual person, company or the government.  Additionally, there are only about 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison, no where near the quantity that is being discussed openly on the net.

In the United States there are approximately 1,300,000 deaths each year.  Of those deaths there are about 900,000 in ground burials every year.  Only a small percentage of those people have pre arranged their burial.

I hope this has answered your questions.  Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have additional questions.

Cordially,
Michael A. Lacy
Vice President of Operations
Vantage Products Corporation
960 Almon Road
Covington, GA 30014
770-788-0136 Office
770-788-0361 Fax
404-545-8022 Cell
mlacy@vantageproducts.com

And lets look at the numbers now.  Lacy states there are about 50,000 of the burial vaults at this location (at the time of the writing of the letter).  If you look at a picture of a stack of vaults, there are approximately 20 in each stack.  If you divide 50,000 by 20, that means there are about 2,500 stacks of 20 each.

If you wish to believe the number of 500,000, dividing that by 20 you get 25,000 stacks of 20.  There is no way there are 25,000 stacks at the Georgia location.  2,500, yes.

ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS

I've shown that the location in Wyoming is for the VA.  I've shown that the location in Georgia is for Vantage.  But there is one more location that conspiracy theorists talk about, and that is at Ennis, Texas (32.320277, -96.608030) located right next to Interstate 45.  It does appear that there are more "FEMA caskets" here in the aerial view. 

The address is 640-646 Rumbo Road and is adjacent to the Anderson/I-45 Industrial Park [PDF aerial view] located on Metro Park Blvd.  I would like to say at this moment that Google Maps using their street view function is your friend.  You can see it yourself in a 360 view by clicking on "Street View".  Note the vantage point shown in the insert of the picture.

The location obviously holds sewage drain supplies.  And it just so happens that there is a plumbing company, Salik Plumbing located just down the street at 604 Rumbo Road who according to Manta is owned by Willie Salik.  According to a document for Texas titled "Maintenance Providers by County" [PDF], Willie Salik  MP0000803, is certified to maintain products made by Ecological Tanks.  Ecological Tanks are manufacturers of sewage systems.

Sorry, no "caskets" or even burial vaults here.

CONTINUED LIES

Although not many seem to know that the "FEMA caskets" are a legitimate place, they continue on with their theories without doing some real research.  Now it did take me a couple of hours to do the research for this post, but I learned exactly who owned what, their comments, and was able to decide for myself that this "FEMA casket" conspiracy is nothing more than a work of fiction.  People really need to stop believing everything they read on the Internet without researching it first.  It's not like people lie on the Internet, right?

But what angers me most is that people actually make money on these bogus stories.  Alex Jones InfoWars is a perfect example.  Lets take a look at his video on this topic.

Now lets look at exactly what he says.  First Alex Jones claims that the vaults are made by Polyguard. Secondly,  he says that the land is leased by FEMA. He additionally claims "We know this is FEMA.  We know that these are coffins.  Some people are debating that.  Because we have all the news articles where it says FEMA has ordered coffins and body bags by the millions.  This is just one stockpile."  And he additionally claims that the CDC has said they are "doing this" incase of a biological attack.  I don't know what Alex Jones has been smoking however, it has warped his mind. 

Here’s Alex Jones radio show on the topic of the plastic coffins.

I think I've pretty well proven that Alex Jones is "crazy" wrong.  I'd like to challenge Alex Jones to show the documentation that he has, primary source documents, not comments on the web, that prove what he is saying contradicting what both companies have said, and what federal records show.  I'm saying Alex, prove me wrong!  Prove to me that FEMA leases this land.  Prove to me that Polyguard manufactured and owns these "caskets".  Prove to me there are more "stockpiles".  Prove to me that what is in that video are coffins and not burial vaults.  And to take a quote from Alex Jones, “QUIT LIVING IN DENIAL” over you making money by spreading lies!  If you have so much evidence proving a huge conspiracy, why don’t you release those documents to the public.  I’m not talking about people saying something, cause as well all know, everyone tells the truth ALL the time, I’m talking primary source documents and pictures.

What makes me angry is that people like this make a living off telling stories that aren't accurately researched, and continue to feed the conspiracy theorists while making money off of it by selling lies.  Just take a look at the trailer for his  “Endgame” video via YouTube.  Or you can watch 13 different exerpts from the movie on YouTube beginning here.

OTHER POSSIBLE CONSPIRACIES

There are those that know that these burial vaults are made by Vantage, and that the GA location is their storage location however, they continue to reach for conspiracy theories. 

Now serious "people who have no life" conspiracy theory people try to link everything and anything together.  One such thing is Vantage and the Federal Government.  Vantage was founded in 1978.  The plant was a research and development facility of Hercules, Inc. before being purchased.  Hercules was primarily a chemical company, but also had a number of subsidiaries and was part of the Aqualon Group as was Vantage Products Hercules spun off from DuPont Corp in the early 1900s.  Hercules had major defense contracts with the Federal Government.  Because of a relationship from the early 1900s, and because Hercules had defense contracts, the conspiracy theory people believe of course there is a connection and a cover-up.  First, the 1900s?  Come on, that is seriously tin-foil.  Second, so what if a company had a defense contract?  There are hundreds of thousands of companies that have defense contracts and contracts with the federal government.  But in the conspiracy theorists eyes, this means a cover up, and that the US government wants to kill us all, by laying out in plain site, half a million caskets (50,000 burial vaults), that they have purchased (owned by funeral homes), in plain sight.  I'm surprised they haven't added Elvis in all of this.

Then there is the connection of the Board of Ashland include former top US govt. employees, and the former head of the Red Cross who became infamous during 9/11.  Ashland acquired Hercules, which owned the plant that Vantage now occupies.  And because Ashland, who has plants in more than 100 countries, is still involved in defense contracts, and biobased chemicals, that we are all doomed and it's a cover-up.  Yeah.. okay...

Oh and lets not forget that since Vantage's parent company is Rowan Technologies, and that Rowan manufacturers industrial furnace/ovens and welding apparatus, and since Rowan has DoD contracts, then the Feds are planning on killing us, cremating us, and throwing all our ashes into these burial vaults. 

Ya know, I think there is a good plot here for a movie.. some of these people seriously need to consider becoming fiction writers, oh wait.. they already are.

Oh an according to a post found on Neithercorp Forum, "We'll need to do a background check on Michael A. Lacey." and "Mr. Lacey has a few more questions to answer I think........"

I would like to remind those of you who choose to follow this path of thinking.  First, the property that the burial vaults is located on is private property.  If Vantage or Conyers Welding wish to, and you are caught on their property, they can prosecute you for trespassing.  Of course then conspiracy theorists would have a field day on this fact, and probably say that the person disappeared, which is why  both companies have chosen to not prosecute those who choose to trespass on their property.

I would also like to remind those of you who choose to try to do a background check on Lacey.  Unless you are a part of law enforcement, this is illegal unless you have a signed statement from Lacey that allows you to do said background check.  He can prosecute for this.

BOTTOM LINE - FEMA CASKETS DEBUNKED

No evidence of "FEMA caskets" to be found in any of the locations that conspiracy theorists claim. 

DISCLAIMER

This one is for the conspiracy theorists.  I do not currently work for the Federal Government.  I do not currently have any contract to work as a civilian for the Federal Government.  My significant other is the same.  I have nothing to hide or gain out of debunking the FEMA casket theory other than to learn for myself that it is entirely false.

Oh and yes, I used the word “currently” intentionally to help spurn the conspiracy theorists on in additional conspiracies of what relationships I have had, if any, with the Federal Government because they will focus on the word “currently” and wonder if I have ever had said relationship while debunking this conspiracy theory.     *Insert Evil Laugh Here*

Now I didn’t say I didn’t think there aren’t some “interesting” things going on in our government.  In fact I ran across some interesting documents while deciding to start a new series on my blog about conspiracies.  I’ll be covering them over time.  They include the “Prisoner Trains”, “Prison Camps”, strange military training and programs, the Civilian Inmate Labor Program (a biggie among those who believe in the FEMA caskets, prison camps, prison trains), and interesting documents.  I’ve already debunked a few, but a few things are still holding my interest, and are proving well, weird.

Next conspiracy in the series, the "Prisoner Trains".