Tell me, who is peaceful, and who is violent? And remember, in England, the police do not normally wear firearms on their sides.
It is being reported that the entire bill for just last weekends riots over the Israeli military action in Gaza in London (one weekend ALONE) is MORE THAN £1 MILLION ($1.45 million USD). Cars were overturned. A Starbucks coffee shop next to the Israeli Embassy was seriously smashed. More here.
So, who is the cause of all this violence? Lets take a look, shall we? And both these videos are from London, on the same day. And all of this in the name of religion. Oh wait.. God is suppose to be peaceful, Allah says kill all those who aren’t Muslim. Good thing I don’t believe in either because in the “religion” that I follow? We don’t waste our time trying to tell the world that we are right and they are wrong. We just laugh at them and go merrily on our way, amused. And no I'm not Wiccan or Pagan either so don’t even go there. But I will say this, if someone comes after me all in the name of God or Allah, then they are personally gonna meet the person they follow. And I ain’t kiddin. I don’t discuss, argue or fight over religion... EVER.
Pro-Palestine
From January 11, 2009 in London.
Pro-Israel
From January 11, 2009 in London. The same day as above.
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Take a guess at who is who....
From January 4th, 2009 in London.
From January 11, 2009 in London
More from January 3rd in London. This time the Bobbies are in riot gear.
So tell me, how long is it before the firebombs start? And how long before this level of violence reaches the United States, as it has everywhere else in the world.
“Its appropriate to fly the Hamas flag … but I don’t think it’s appropriate to fly the Israeli flag anywhere in America … that flag represents a terrorist state.”
When asked if he thought Hamas was a terrorist organization, his answer is “Absolutely not, that’s right wing spin. That’s pro-Israel spin.”
When asked if Hamas targets civilians, his answer is “No.”
How typical for San Francisco and for California. Forget the red, white and blue, green is the new color of San Francisco,and I don’t mean “green” as in environment friendly.
Nice Sign. Yesterday, about 200 Palestinian supporters, marched in front of the state capital at noon, urging the United States to take a neutral stand in the Mideast.
The protest was organized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, OK chapter.
People walked in front of the Capital building in a circle during the noon hour chanting, “Stop the killing, free, free Gaza!” and “Free, free Palestine; occupation is a crime!”
Michael Abdulaziz-Gipson, a board member said the group is calling upon public officials and congressmen to stop the Israeli attacks and potential occupation of the Gaza Strip. “We are asking the American public not to become desensitized,” he said, noting that the general population is being forced to stay in their home.
According to Razi Hashmi, the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ executive director, America should take immediate steps to end Israel’s “illegal and immoral” offensive against the Gaza' Strip’s Hamas rulers. “We as Oklahomans and as Americans should be concerned about this conflict because our taxes are going towards Israel,” Hashmi said. “We should not allow our government to give Israel a blank check to allow the destruction of hopes for peace in the Middle East.” However in a rather confusing statement, Hashmi also said as an American citizen, he agrees with the U.S. description of Hamas.
During the demonstration, one protestor held a sign that showed a swastika inside the Star of David. According to Hashmi, the man carrying the sign, identified only as a college student from OK City, was asked to leave and the sign removed a “couple of minutes” after the demonstration started. Also according to Hashimi, the man has been banned from future protests organized by the organization. According to Hashmi, the organization distributed rules before the demonstration that no offensive signs or banners would be tolerated. “The Star of David is a sacred symbol of faith and Muslims are stressed by Islam to respect all symbols of faith and I apologize,” Hashmi said. “This [sign] does not reflect our personal views.”
However, unless the video below was taken within the first few minutes of the protest, the sign is seen during the demonstration. But then what do you expect from a group who defends Hamas?
Michael Barlow, past president of the Jewish Federation of Greater OK City watched the protest commenting, “War is unfortunate, but the question is: What is Israel to do, with scores of missiles being shot into Israel population centers daily?” “How long do you allow missiles to be shot into your country from another country?” Barlow added that it is difficult for Israel to negotiate with Hamas leaders when they do not recognize Israel’s right to exist.
United Methodist minister Rev. Andres Tevington of the Church of the Servant in OK City said the Israelis and Palestinians should quit “illegitimately calling on the name of God” in this fighting. “We call upon the U.S. to help both sides see there is a different way to do this,” he said.
Rev. Kristen Brown, a United Methodist minister attended the protest saying, “I saw that this isn’t really a religious issue, this is an issue about people who are living under military occupation for 40 years and they’re in a very desperate situation,” she said.
RANT ON
What irritates me more and more, is the use of children in these protests. How can a child, who is aged 2-7 years old, have a mental ability to understand the protest, and understand the purpose of these signs, or the babies swaddled in bloodied cloth they carry? How can these children make a voluntary choice at their age to make a voluntary consent to participate in these protests. Any child who is a minor, should not be allowed to participate in these protests, if they are a credible organization, who is looking out for a child’s best interest. These children do not have the mentality to make an informed consent to voluntarily participate in these protests. This is nothing more than encouraging racism.
And how can you call for the end of an “illegal and immoral” offensive against a terrorist organization and still say you support the U.S. designation of Hamas as a terrorist organization?
So quick question to think about while watching the below video from 2000 first before we get to 2009. The man in the middle, when the spread asks “Who here supports Hezbollah” does it not seem that the man in the middle raises his hands, not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, not five times, but six times to show his support for Hezbollah in this October 2000 video? And also, what do you hear from the crowd? Do you hear support or laughter?
Well, the man in the video is Mahdi Bray. After media attention on the above video, Bray claimed he was just having a bit of fun, and not approving Alamoudi’s words in a Northern Virginia Daily news article.
The majority of the people they were kind of raising their hands, and kind of cheering, and so on because this was so uncharacteristic of al-Amoundi. We didn’t know he had a problem with law enforcement. He was considered the pillar of the American Muslim community.
You saw me pumping my fists. You didn’t see me raising my hands. If they had shown the audience, you would have seen people in the audience raising their hands and falling out laughing. For him to come and make these kinds of radical rants, no one took him seriously.
Mahdi Bray has worked with International ANSWER, a group who has recently organized over 50 Anti-Israel protests in the United States in the past week, a group who was founded by members of the Workers World Party (WWP) and members of the Party for Socialism and Liberation(PSL). I recently blogged about ANSWER who has been accused for a few years of anti-Semitism, and supporting Hezbollah and Hamas.
American Muslim Council (AMC)– Advisory Board. This groups claims to fame are, The Chairman of this group was imprisoned for terror-related convictions in 2003. AMC was a part of the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom. AMC created the National Islamic Prison Foundation below. AMC was a longtime supporter of Sudan’s National Islamic Front, which was and still is on the State Dept.’s list of terrorist organizations.
Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC)– Advisory Board. Formed a coalition to repeal and amend the Patriot Act. MPAC asserts that Hezbollah “could be called a liberation movement.” Found and executive director Salam AL-Marayati justified the existence of Hamas as a political entity and a provider of social programs and “educational operations”. MPAC justified the 1983 bombing of the American Marine barracks in Lebanon as a “military operation” rather than a terrorist attack. Claims Israel was established by terrorism and that they are the “worst terrorists in the world.” And a lot more.
Interfaith Alliance Foundation – Advisory Board
Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations – President
National Islamic Prison Foundation (NIPF) – Head. Created by American Muslim Council. A Saudi-supported outreach program seeking to convert US prison inmates to the Islamic faith. Tells them when they are released from prison, they will be able to find food and shelter, as well as assistance in finding employment, in virtually any mosque or masjid. The indoctrination of American inmates is a strategy described in al Qaeda training manuals.
Imam Jamil Defense Fund – National Mobilization Chairman. Organization provides legal aid for Jamil Abudullah Al-Amin (aka H. Rap Brown), who was twice on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted Fugitivies” list and is now serving a life sentence for murdering a police officer.
Muslim American Society and ANSWER Anti-Israel Protest in Washington
This protest was held this past Friday at the Israeli Embassy in Washington and then headed to the Egyptian Embassy. Brian Becker, who heads ANSWER also made an appearance which can be seen in video 3 below.
These crimes could not be committed [against Gaza by Israel] and would not be committed without the explicit consent and support and financing provided by the Bush Administration. And so in that sense we are here to say, that this is a US backed Israeli atrocity and justice demands that the United States Government cut all aid to Israel today, otherwise and because of it the US is guilty of war crimes too.
[Oh okay, so I guess it didn’t matter that Bush just gave $85 MILLION dollars to the UN for Gaza and the West Bank right? No aid for Israel, no aid for Gaza. An eye for an eye.]
Bray, meanwhile, had to say, “We’re here to say the violence must stop.” “And we’re here to say that there must be a ceasefire, a truce and that basically the sanctity of life is important.” He also had to say in one of the videos, that the people were there to represent the Muslims. [Wait, isn’t this SUPPOSE to be anti-war, and not about anti-Semitism?]
Once again, just that, kind of a layout of what we want to do here today.
First of all, we’re here to protest the occupation of Palestine. We’re here to protest the slaughter in Gaza. We’re here to protest the 18 months of siege that has taken place in Gaza, before the bombs dropped, people were dying because they couldn’t get food, medicine, medical attention, clean drinking water, etc. So, that’s why we’re here.
[Sure, I’ve given my own terms for a ceasefire and truce. Gaza stays the way it is, Israel stays the way it is. However, if a rocket comes from Gaza into Israel, that means that Israel can send a Hellfire missile back across to Gaza. If two rockets come from Gaza, then two Hellfire missiles go back across to Gaza. Fair deal. But if Iran sends anything over to Israel, then that’s a whole different ballgame.]
One angry protestor spoke against Barack Obama wanting to know why he was silent and why he wasn’t president now. But pointed out when Georgia was attacked by Russian, Obama spoke on that issue against Russia. That Obama doesn’t seem to represent “Change”.
And that “President Obama, despite all he said on television, that is illegal. That is immoral. That is inhuman. And reason for him to make a decision now.” And additionally said that Obama is a subservient to the current Administration.
[Can be seen and heard in the first video below. Obama has in the past stated that Israel has the right to defend itself. And obviously, these protestors want the United States to start a war with Israel. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. If these people want help to defend Gaza, then they can just take the next plane over there, and join Hamas. But instead, they choose to stay safely here, and whine, instead of paying homage to their country, and serve the country they seem to show more allegiance to than the United States.]
And remember ladies, gentlemen and kiddies, I’m not Jewish, I’m not Muslim, and I’m not Christian. I don’t look at a person by their sex, their race or their religion. I look at a person by their actions. And all I see are anti-Israeli hypocrites in these protests. It was okay when Hamas was sending rockets across the border and killing civilians and children in Israel. It was okay when bombs were set off near schools and school buses in Israel. But now, the tables turned, and the bullied becomes the bully. An eye for an eye.
ANSWER is suppose to be an anti-war, anti-racism, anti-terrorist, anti-imperialist organization however, they have been accused of serious anti-Semitism in the past, with some serious Jew bashing, chants of support for Hezbolla and Nazi flag waving at previous demonstrations. And they seem to be a supporter of terrorist groups such as Hamas.
If they were a true anti-war organization, then why are they not protesting against BOTH Israel and Hamas from sending rockets on a daily basis across the border into Israel killing innocent civilians. But instead, they choose to only protest Israel. This makes them guilty of anti-Semitism.
This week, ANSWER organized over 50 protests in the United States alone, which I blogged about a few days ago. Just take a look at how “peaceful” and “modest” many were at these protests.
But at one on Friday in Washington , with only about 400 people showing up of a city that has a population of nearly 600,000 (0.06% of the population), in front of the Israeli Embassy, Brian Becker made a few statements about the United States.
These crimes could not be committed [against Gaza by Israel] and would not be committed without the explicit consent and support and financing provided by the Bush Administration. And so in that sense we are here to say, that this is a US backed Israeli atrocity and justice demands that the United States Government cut all aid to Israel today, otherwise and because of it the US is guilty of war crimes too.
Interesting how he fails to mention that Bush just gave $85 million over to the UN for Gaza and the West Bank on December 30th, the most anyone in the world has given since the bombing.
To quote a line: “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
Yesterday, Dec. 30th, 2008 there were many, many Pro-Palestinian demonstrations across the country. Nearly all, numbering more than 50, were organized by A.N.S.W.E.R. , a U.S. based organization. ANSWER stands for “Act Now To Stop War and End Racism”.
A “National Day of Action” to show solidarity with the Palestinian people in Gaza was organized by ANSWER, in conjunction with the Muslim American Society Freedom, Free Palestine Alliance, National Council of Arab American and Al-Awda, and the International Palestine Right to Return Coalition. From their website, they state:
“…to be a National Day of Action and are continuing to call for emergency demonstrations across the country to show solidarity with the Palestinian people in Gaza and to demand an immediate end to the murderous attacks carried out by the Israeli military against the people of Gaza.”
Now I blogged yesterday asking a couple questions. If ANSWER is really an anti-war, anti-racism, anti-terrorist, anti-imperialist organization as they claim, them why didn’t they organize protests when Hamas, who are on the US terrorist list and whose charter includes the annihilation of the Jews in Israel, was sending rockets and mortars across the border on a daily basis? That activity is an Imperialist act.
And if they are a true anti-war organization, they why are they not protesting against BOTH Hamas and Israel, but instead choosing to only protest against Israel? This makes them guilty of anti-Semitism.
“Several anti-war protests in San Francisco organized by ANSWER Coalition featured imagery and slogans some considered anti-Semitic, including the burning of the Israel flag, chants of support for terrorist groups like Hezbolla and Nazi-like arm salutes.” ANSWERS defense? “We strongly abhor all forms of racism and bigotry, including anti-Semitism. At the same time, we don’t believe that criticism of Israeli government policies should be labeled as anti-Semitism any more than criticism of U.S. government policy should be labeled as anti-American.”
But here’s a small sampling of protests around the world and in the United States yesterday. Okay, maybe more than a small sampling.
PROTESTS WITH VIOLENCE AROUND THE WORLD
Antwerp, Belgium
Jewish groups have condemned a Belgian public broadcaster, VRT, for airing a show in which a standup comedian jokes about the Holocaust and the persecution of Jews. Philippe Geubels, the comedian stated that the Holocaust cannot happen again because “Jews are much smarter now.” “They have spread across the world. Try rounding them up! Most are in America so you cannot send them by train to Germany” to die in gas chambers. “What are they going to do if there is a big gas leak in Antwerp? Take the city to court for provocation?” Additionally VRT came under criticism for a recent ad about a travel show focusing on Berlin. It showed a drawing of Hitler as a male stripper giving the Nazi salute in front of a swastika flag. That triggered a protest by teh Germany embassy, which called it “totally tasteless.”
The Arab European League (AEL) organized this demonstration. After the protest disbanded the demonstrators marched towards Jewish neighborhoods, clashing with the police. Car windows were broken, trams and buses were attacked. Now many Jews are afraid to go to out into the streets fearing vandalism and violence.
Odenza, Denmark
A group of Arab youths opened fire Wednesday evening on a number of Israelis working at a mall in the Danish city of Odenza. The Israelis, who were operating a stall in the shopping center, were lightly wounded in their legs.
But thanks to ANSWER, they have brought a nice little taste of Gaza City to the streets of America.
London, England
In London, and anti-Israel protestor snatched a policeman’s cap and set it on fire during a protest. Some climbed israel’s embassy gates and were restrained by police. Crowds chanted, “Palestine must be free from the river to the sea.”
And according to a person on YouTube by the name of “NiceIslamMedia101” which has an icon of a Hamas supporter, and a video that begins showing a Hamas flag, there will be additional protests in London nearly every day. There is a link for more information which leads to the “Palestine Solidarity Campaign” website.
Tehran, Iran
Hundreds of Iranian radicals stormed the British compound in Tehran last night, replacing the Union flag with a Palestinian one and held the consulate for about an hour. Additionally a “fire bomb” was thrown at the gates. A hardline Iranian news agency said that protests against Britain and Egypt, whose embassy was also targeted, would continue.
One demonstrator told the AP TV service: “We brought down the British flag and put up the flag of Palestine so we can send our message.” He said the people of Gaza were being ignored by the world and referred to Britain as an “old sleeping fox”.
Also yesterday, the Mash’had branch of the Basiji Students gathered and took to violent protesting in front of the main gates of the Saudi Arabian consulate. They chanted slogans against Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq and Jordan while carrying placards that had "traitor”, “coward” and “whore” on them. In addition, they threw rocks and heavy objects through the windows of the consulate building. One of the chants was “Woe is you, if Khamenei gives me my orders of Jihad.”
And one more incident occurred at the office of Saudi Arabia’s state-owned airline in Tehran over a Saudi-backed peace initiative with Israel. The group, identified as Ikhwan al-Radwan, or Brothers of Heaven, attacked the office with several Molotov cocktails. Minor damage was reported. The initiative offers Israel normal relations with all Arab countries if it withdraws from lands occupied in 1967 Arab-Israeli war and allows the creation of a Palestinian state with a capital in Jerusalem.
Stockholm, Sweden
Hundreds of demonstrators marched through the Swedish capital to protest against Israel, setting an Israeli flag on fire, and changing, “Israel, murderer, ” “Gaza solidarity,” and “Close the embassy.” “Enough blood! We’ve seen enough,” an organizer with the Swedish Islamic Association told the AFP.
PROTESTS IN THE UNITED STATES
Coming Soon To A Neighborhood Near You And all this in the name of Allah [God]. Radical Islam is NOT a religion, it is a political doctrine of world domination masked as a religion. The demonstrations as seen below, are what will get the United States into a state of Martial Law, especially if violence as seen in other countries begins. Now remember, ANSWER is SUPPOSE to be against anti-Semitism.
Los Angeles, California
Pro-Palestine
About 100 people gathered outside the Federal Building in Westwood. Another protest was underway outside the Israeli Consulate on Wilshire Blvd east of Beverly Hills, where Los Angeles police kept two groups of chanting protestors and supporters separate.
As part of the effort, Friday prayer meetings at more than 70 mosques throughout Southern CA will be dedicated to victims of the attacks. There are an estimated 650,000 Muslims living in So. Cal.
Hussam Ayloush of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said “This is an illegal bombardment by Israel. It is barbaric and it’s even more barbaric that it’s being done by the Bush Administration.” “Gaza’s people are prisoners in their own land. We depend on the help of the American people.”
Sacramento, California
Pro-Palestine
San Francisco, California
Pro-Palestine
This one looks CRAZY nutz. Take a look at “At the back of the hill” to find out what this protest was really like, from a non-Palestinian point of view.
Washington, DC
Pro-Palestine
About 750 keffiyeh-wearing Palestine supporters chanted outside the US State Department. Other reports state only close to 200 participated. What is interesting to note, is that when it came 5pm, out of the 750, only about 30 chose to participate in prayer. This was an ANSWER rally, that was organized by Brian Becker. Also present was Mara Verheyden-Hillard from the National Lawyers’ Guild.
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Pro-Palestine
Quotes that can be clearly heard and note, while people line street and street corners:
A Hijab is a “modest dress for women” that can include a veil to cover the face. The following is yelled by a woman in a partial Hijab, obviously NOT showing ANY modest behavior. ”You’re losers! Your losers! Losers! Your mother’s a whore! Your mother’s a whore! You’re losers. Yea, fuck yourself,” while carrying a sign that says “Nuke Israel”. She additionally yelled, “Nuke Israel. There is no Israel.” Obviously she knows NOTHING about her claimed religion, for if she acted this way in Gaza, she would be at a minimum, stoned to death for her actions.
A group of men yelling and chanting at a car, “Go to Hell! Go to Hell!” Note, they are smiling the entire time with one man carrying a sign saying “Nuke Israel. Go to Hell”.
Another woman, again wearing a partial burka: “Go steal other lands! Go! Murderers! Go back to the oven! You need a big oven, that’s what you need!”
Eventually the crowd begins to get out of control and break through a police line. The Pro-Palestinians cross the street, block the street and approach Israel supporters. Finally, the police step in. You can hear on pro-Israel supporter saying “They are so violent.”
Additional video via “Atlas Shrugs” of the same protest.
Tampa, Florida
Pro-Palestine
Atlanta, Georgia
Pro-Palestine
Kailua, Hawaii
Pro-Palestine
According to the AP, "A small group of placard-waving pro-Palestinian demonstrators gathered near U.S. President-elect Barack Obama’s vacation retreat in Hawaii.”
[Obviously these people don’t know that President Bush has sent $85 billion to the UN that is marked for aid to Gaza and the West Bank.]
Boston, Massachusetts [Park Plaza]
Pro-Israel & Pro-Palestine
Boston, Massachusetts
Pro-Palestinian
Pro-Israel
Dearborn, Michigan
Pro-Palestine
Approximately 5,000 people showed up for this protest with the streets lined for eight city blocks. Some marchers chanted, “Gaza, Gaza dont’ cry, Palestine will never die” and “Israel is a terrorist state.” Others chanted, in Arabic, “God is Great” and “a martyr is beloved of God.”
One protestor said that the responsibility for the Israeli attack lies with the US government, which “gives billions of dollars in military aide to Israel.”
Another protestor said he marched to protest, “the aggression and the use of excessive force” by Israel in Gaza. “These are nothing but terrorist acts.”
One group of protestors carried a mock coffin decorated with pictures of dead and injured Arab children and labeled “U.S. Tax Dollars at Work” and “Victims of Zionism.”
Many spoke to at this protest said they had “hope that Obama would address the plight of the Palestinians.”
This protest was called by the Congress of Arab American Organizations. Spokesman Osama Siblani said, “There is disappointment and anger in our community and we need to express it toward the current U.S. administration that has given a blank check to the Israelis.”
The Detroit area has the largest and most concentrated Arab American population in the country, with as many as 350,000 residents in Southeast Michigan of Arab ancestry.
Over a thousand New Yorkers marched through midtown Manhattan, chanting and carrying signs and Palestinian flags on Tuesday. This demonstration was brought together by the ANSWER Coalition, the Muslim American SOciety NY, Free Palestine Alliance, National Council of Arab Supporters, and Al-Awda NY and Al-Asalah NY, among others.
They all gathered in front of the Permanent Mission of Israel to the UN. The spectators covered the sidewalk of the entire block at the corner of 42nd and 2nd Ave. This was the third day in a row for Pro-Palestinian protesting in midtown.
Demonstrators chanted in both Arabic and English, waving Palestinian flags and carrying placards with phrases such as “Olmert, Olmert, What do you say? How many kids have you killed today?” and “Viva viva Palestina.”
Pamphlets were handed out, including a petition to be sent to House Reps, which demands that the US condemn the war in the strongest terms, and that it uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Times of War.
Across the street from 42nd and 2nd Ave was also a pro-Israel counter-protest. Some insults were hurled at these demonstrators. “You should be ashamed of yourself! Stop the ethnic cleansing!” on man screamed.
Ocala, Florida
Pro-Palestine
Roughly two dozen demonstrators gathered Tuesday in from of the Lockheed Martin plant in Silver Springs Shores. Lockheed Martin makes components for Hellfire missiles. One woman states, “This is not over. This is not going to be over for quite some time and this is just the beginning of another long, long, long piece of disturbance in the Middle East.”
One Lockheed employee, saw the protest, went home and got her two adult daughters. They returned to the scene and counter-protested across the street. The three shouted: “Support our troops”, “God Bless America,” and “If you’re so proud of it, go back to Gaza.”
I agree with both women’s statements.
Dallas, Texas
Pro-Palestinian protestors converged at the Dealy Plaza in Dallas.
Now fair warning. I’ve NEVER been considered to be politically correct, however, I am known to speak my mind, fairly on many matters. I am known to listen to both sides, in their entirety, and then go from there. And I do not take race, religion, or sex into consideration. I look at it from the point of view of ethics, simply right and wrong.
In this case, is it right to kill people. Well, that’s according to what you believe. If you are a Christian, the only time it is “okay”, if you will, to kill another person, along with man’s law, is during War. This also includes police actions when one must defend themselves. However, according to other religions, those who do not believe in their religion, and will not convert, should die, all in the name of God. To kill those who do not believe in what you believe, is considered to be a “Holy” act. Yet, when those same people are attacked, and killed, then they are the ones calling it murder. Does this EVEN make sense? Can you say hypocrites? Please, if you are Islamic, please explain that logic to me. And please don’t say that it’s different because Israel is killing children. Hamas is just as guilty of the same crime, if you want to put it that way.
But I have one small question for those who believe in Islam. And remember, I am not Jewish, I am not Muslim, and I certainly wouldn’t be considered Christian. But the question is, “Why are the Jews so bad?” Tell me exactly why they are bad. Who told you that the Jews are bad people? What is the basis for that prior to say, 42 years ago? What exactly did they do, more than 100 years ago, that was so bad? If you can not answer this question, other than because people have told you that, and because your “religion” tells you that, then you are guilty of racism. Welcome to the modern world, not a third world country.
And if you are not racist, then why are you supporting people who chose to vote in Hamas in their government, an organization that is considered a terrorist organization by nearly every country in the world, that has in their charter, the annihilation of Jews. That ladies and gentlemen, is genocide. Its not so nice when it comes back in your face does it?
Now if you are a follower of Islam, you aren’t going to like the way I’ve worded that question about Jews. But I, who is not a follower of Islam, or a Jew, who is an outsider, is trying to understand BOTH points of view from BOTH sides. You can take the attitude that I will never understand because I’m not a follower of Islam and will end up in Hell, or that it’s none of my business, well.. it is my business because this is happening on the streets of the country I live in.
And hey, I’ve been on my way to Hell for a long time, so no biggie in that threat. I never proclaim that I am perfect, and I will certainly go to Heaven. You as a person do not have the right to judge whether I will go to Hell or Heaven, only God can make that judgment. And if that is my destiny, then so be it. Your words of a “devil” or whatever you call those who are not followers of Islam, and saying I should die because of my beliefs does not offend me. Lemme put it this way, I don’t have a problem slinging around a few slabs of bacon in bacon grease coated hands which would do absolutely no physical damage to you. However, is violence towards my attitude worth losing your 40some virgins and existing in Hell for eternity?
Because if anything, I propose a campaign for PEACE on the streets of the United States between Pro-Palestinians and those who are Pro-Israel. Everyone is entitled to the right to assembly and the right to free speech thanks to our Constitution. That is something that is NOT available in MOST Middle East countries, especially to women. And general human rights and ethics entitles you to your own opinion, whether in my opinion, my neighbors opinion, or the person next to me’s opinion is different. Again, an option that is NOT available in MOST Middle East countries.
However, name calling, encroachment, and violence towards an opposite group because of religion and race are not. That is a hate crime here in the United States. I understand that the laws of Israel and of Gaza are different from here in the United States, but so should you. You live in the United States, not in Israel and not in Gaza. Please do NOT bring the Middle East conflict to OUR streets. Isn’t the fighting and way of life there the reason you left and came to the United States to live free?
And if you are so proud of your land, and state that an injustice is being done, instead of bringing violence to our streets here in the United States, go back to Gaza and fight alongside Hamas against Israel.
What you need to realize is that yes, the United States gave aid to Israel however, in the past few days President Bush also gave $85 million in aide to the UN marked for Gaza and the West bank. That’s more money per person for Gaza and the West Bank, than we as Americans got in our “stimulus” checks last year. Our president gave Gaza and the West Bank more money per person for aid, that Congress gave us for economic help.
And if you tell me that I have to make a choice? Then my choice is going to be those who break the law in the United States, according to our laws here, not the laws of Israel or of Gaza, should go to jail. Obviously you don’t like the way we do things here in the United States, so go back to the Middle East where your life was so much better than here… and take your never ending war with you. Oh wait, or is that why you came to the United States, so you could be free.
HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM
Here’s an easy one. Israel stops firing. If Hamas sends a rocket across the border, without provocation, then Israel has the right to send a Hellfire missile in. If Hamas sends two rockets or mortars across the border, unprovoked, then Israel has the right to send two Hellfire missiles in. Deal? I’m sure there’s something in Islam that is similar to “An eye for an eye.” You say that’s no end to the war? Well, hasn’t Hamas been attacking Israel for about ohh.. what seven years and Palestine never complained while you cheered Hamas on? And what about all the other years, basically since the beginning of time?
Because ultimately, the below picture is what all should be working for. Palestinians and Jews side by side, for the same cause. Peace between them both.
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And so it begins… unfortunately it is because of the following that makes an innocent bystander start to have to choose sides.
And the organization that seems to be organizing most of these protests is A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now To Stop War and End Terrorism).
This US-based anti-war organization, was formed three days after 9/11) organized the demonstration. The ANSWER Coalition, Muslim American Society Freedom, Free Palestine Alliance, National Council of Arab American and Al-Awda, International Palestine Right to Return Coalition are calling for Tuesday (today) to be a National Day of Action to show solidarity with the Palestinian people in Gaza. Demonstrations are being organized, for TODAY, all over the country via ANSWER in over FIFTY different cities [and luckily none in my state].
What I find interesting in all of this is that if A.N.S.W.E.R. is really an anti-terrorism organization, they why are they not protesting Hamas, who are the real terrorists? Why are they calling Israel the terrorists?
And if they are a true anti-war organization, they why are they not protesting against both Hamas and Israel, but instead choosing to only protest against Israel?
Oh wait, all of their protests have been pro-Palestinian or pro-Muslim, and have frequently supported Hezbollah and Hamas. They also support rights and unconditional amnesty for illegal immigrants. “Several anti-war protests in San Francisco organized by the ANSWER Coalition featured imagery and slogans some considered anti-Semitic, including the burning of the Israeli flag, chants of support for terrorist groups like Hazbollah and Nazi-like arm salutes.” ANSWER’s defense? “We strongly abhor all forms of racism and bigotry, including anti-Semitism. At the same time, we don’t believe that criticism of Israeli government policies should be labeled as anti-Semitism any more than criticism of U.S. government policy should be labeled as anti-American.” [Yea, but when I’m not happy with what the US government is doing, I don’t burn the American flag, or try to turn it into a NWO thing.]
And ANSWER was founded by USAG Ramsey Clark and the Workers World Party (WWP). Many of ANSWER’s leaders are member of the WWP and members of the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL). Oh and they sell Che t-shirts on their website. For a more interesting viewpoint on ANSWER, have a look at Protest Warrior’s website of “Operation Wolverines” against ANSWER.
A group of about 200 protesters yelled “end the occupation” and held signs calling for a halt to the bombings in Gaza outside the Texas Capitol. Some had Palestinian flags and signs that read “free Palestine” or “Cease Fire.”
“It’s genocide. It’s a holocaust,” said “Frank from Arlington” about Israel’s police in the occupied territories. “I don’t say that to diminish the horror of the holocaust, but that’s what they’re doing.”
Over 100 people from the Boston Coalition for Palestinian Rights and several other human rights and pro-Palestinian organizations held a protest. Organizers say more protests are to follow later this week.
In NYC, over a thousand protestors flooded Rockefeller Center in Manhattan on the 28th. The protestors chanted “Free Free Palestine” and “While you’re shopping bombs are dropping.”
Pro-Israel groups organized a rally in support outside the Isreali consulate in Midtown and dropped leaflets calling on Hamas to adhere to a cease-fire. The group “Stand With Us” said “Hamas and its supporters bear sole responsibility for any harm to Gaza’s civilians.”
About 75 people gathered at Monument Circle on Monday evening to protest Israel airstrikes in the Gaza Strip. The demonstration, which was pulled together at the last minute by word of mouth, included Palestinian-Americans marching around the Circle holding candles and signs. One read, “Mothers are grieving in Palestine and Israel.” Another was scrawled with the words, “300+ dead? Not kosher.”
Bashar Ghanem, 32, a heating and cooling technician said he immigrated to Indianapolis from Nablus six years ago and is now a U.S. citizen. “The war is not equal,” he said. “Israel’s army has all kinds of high-tech weapons.” [But it was fair when Hamas was sending daily rockets and mortars into Israel? And who said war was fair?]
Anas Al-Marouq, 22, a student at Indiana University-Purdue University Indy who lived in Hebron from ages 12 to 17 said, “A lot of people say if Hamas wasn’t firing rockets as Israel, this wouldn’t have happened, and it’s true, but if there wasn’t a huge embargo on Gaza, there wouldn’t be a huge resistance. You can only trap a cat in the corner so long until it starts fighting for itself.” [But if the dog (Israel) fights back at the cat(Hamas), then it’s wrong, right?]
A “few hundred” demonstrators tied up Market Street traffic in San Francisco. Organizer Lubna Morrar said, “We are just representing our people of the Gaza who have been bombed every day,” she said.
The Arab Organizing and Resource Center held a protest speaking of the “connections between Palestinian and other indigenous struggles against genocide as well as the complicity of US taxpayers in the atrocity.”
AROUND THE WORLD
Just a small sampling from around the world.
In Sydney, Australia today, Pro-Palestine protests brought the city to a standstill, as more than 1000 Arab Australians marked on the US Consulate in an anti-Israel, anti-US rally.
In Beirut, Lebanon, tens of thousands of Lebanese Hezbollah supporters were involved in a protest carrying Palestinian, Lebanese and yellow Hezbollah flags and banners supporting the Palestinian people. Hezbollah has vowed to support Hamas, but has for now held its fire.
In London, England, about 2,000 protestors marched outside the Israeli embassy. Protestors threw red liquids at the gate of the Israeli embassy.
In Vancouver, Canada, about 250 pro-Palestinian demonstrators were chanting “Viva, viva intifada!” and “1-2-3-4, we don’t want this racist war!” and “Occupation is a crime, from Iraq to Palestine.” Meanwhile across the street 8 pro-Israel demonstrators shouted “Hamas is a terrorist organization” and waved the Israeli flag.
In Barcelona, Span, “hundreds of people” protested with a Palestinian banner in front of the Israel-Spain chamber of commerce, demanding the government of Catalonia region end its trade agreements with Israel. Some carried placards reading “genocide” and “racist”. The protest followed a demonstration outside the Israeli embassy.
In Baghdad, Iraq about 1,000 protestors chanted “No, no to Israel” and burned Israeli and American flags.
In Switzerland, there was a protest, however I can not find the number attended or even a news article about it.
RANT ON
First, one Gaza official is saying that the Palestinian death toll is at 364. Of that, the U.N. is saying around 62 of the dead were civilians. That means over 300 terrorists were killed. Yes, you read that right, terrorists. Hamas is not a government. Hamas is not an army. Hamas is not a country. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are a group of militia acting like terrorists who self imposed their own rule. And as I have said before, those who choose to live in the Gaza Strip under their rule obviously agree with what they are doing, thus the residents of Gaza are terrorist supporters. It would seem that the “innocent civilians” would greatly outnumber Hamas. It is a war on terrorism in an area that holds 1.5 million people.
I find it interesting that when Hamas was sending rockets and mortars over to Israel on a daily basis, killing innocent civilians on nearly a daily basis for years, that the Palestinians around the world never EVER said that it should stop, that it was wrong. I never EVER heard one Palestinian cry for the rights of the Israeli children. Especially when fighters launched missiles at Jewish day care centers and schools. But when their children are killed, its a totally different situation, right? Its genocide then.
And if you think all those people that live in Gaza are against Hamas… have a look at the below video. This video was shot on December 14th, of this year at a celebration marking Hamas’ 21 year anniversary.
And I haven’t heard ONE Palestinian talk about how WRONG it was on Christmas Day when Hamas lobbed a mortar at the Erez crossing just as a group of Gaza Christians were standing in line to travel to Bethlehem for Christmas.
Or what about all the years of suicide bombings, which one included a school bus?
Or what about on Monday when Hamas sent a missile into a bus station at Ashdod?
Can you imagine living like this on a day to day basis in Israel? “It’s totally disrupting life. Here you have 15-20 seconds to prepare, to get cover. It’s so disruptive to the lives of the people who are living within the rage … and it’s a daily thing … People send their kids to school and they don’t know if they’re gonna come back.” Tell me, how would you feel if you have to live like this on a daily basis? How would you feel if you walked out the door that day, not knowing if you would ever see your family alive again? EVERY DAY? Or how would you feel if you knew that at any moment, everything you own could be destroyed by a rocket. And how well would you sleep at night knowing that at any time a rocket could drop on your home? I’m pretty sure that you get mad right now, if your neighbor throws trash in your yard, right? And what would you think if Tijuana started lobbing a few rockets across the border to the United States to San Diego on a daily basis. Or if Canada started thrown a few mortars across the border to Albany, NY? Exactly how long would that last?
Now that Israel has had enough, and decided to eradicate the terrorists, they are wrong, and are in violation of International Law? How can you be in violation of International Law when you attack terrorists and their supporters? Whine, whine, whine. Now that you are on the losing end, you claim FOUL and want fair play. Sorry.. too late for that. Now Hamas and those living in Gaza, whose number is obviously rather high, now get a taste of what they have been handing out.. and they don’t like it. Too bad.
But Hamas also wants to eradicate Jews all in the name of Allah. Hamas has previously claimed all of what is now Israel and the West Bank and Gaza, and its charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Until Hamas recognizes Israel’s right to exist, this “war” will NEVER END.
But it seems that the “fight” has come to the United States. Prior to this incident I wrote about Israeli and Palestinian “skirmishes” and “disagreements” in my “Israeli and Palestinian Violence on UC Berkeley Campus” back in mid November. And just like in the current news, back then, and for the past 10 years, if Palestinian students picked on Israeli students it was ignored or okay. But when Israeli students fought back, it was a “bad thing” and a “wrong thing”. Why is it that the world only reacts when Israel fights back, but never when Hamas attacks Israel?
I refuse to take sides however, if Israelis and Palestinians bring their demonstrations and violence into my neighborhood, I will choose the side of the Israelis. And no I am not Jewish, nor am I Muslim. Heck, I’m not even Christian, if you really want to know. But I have MAJOR problems with the innocent are picked on and wrongly accused. I’m not saying that Israel is innocent in all of this, I’m simply saying that I don’t like bullies who claim they are the victim.
If you really want someone to protest, protest Egypt who’s border guards are opening fire on those same innocent civilians who are trying to escape Gaza, and it has been reported that some Palestinians have been injured as a rest. Egypt has added an additional 300 guards to the border. And President Mubarak said that Egypt will keep its border crossings with Gaza closed until Abbas regains authority over the territory. Why not protest a country that is keeping those who wish to flee the fighting stuck in their country? But no, lets point fingers at Israel and the United States instead, right? And lets not point fingers at Hamas, who wants to eradicate the Jews, and has in the past, for years, sent daily rocket barrages across the border into Israel, right? Let’s just blame Israel instead.
Or we could always discuss the new news, about Hamas bringing back Crucifixion. Did you know that Hamas “legislators” passed a Shari’a criminal code for the Palestine Authority, which authorizes crucifixion? The Quran says, “5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter.”
Yea, that’s REAL progress. A REAL step… a real step backwards that is. I have bars of “Give Me That Old Time Religion” going through my head now…
Seriously, what does Hamas do? Sit around on a Saturday night saying, “Hey, I’m bored. Let’s go have some fun, fire a few rockets over to Israel, and kill a few people.” Then afterwards do they say to each other, “Let’s go see what we can do next to make ourselves even more barbaric! Stoning, hanging, beheading and burning is just so last year….” To blaspheme a line from the Bible: “Do NOT forgive them, Father, for they know PERFECTLY well what they do.”
HOWEVER, there is the old saying of “overkill”. There is a point when you have to say “enough”! Israel has said no to a cease fire, and Hamas continues to send rockets back across to Israel. Hamas needs to realize that Israel could totally destroy Gaza if they want, and Israel should really realize that there is such a thing as overkill, and not try genocide. But will either of them realize this? Probably not.
And with everyone hating and protesting the United States along with Israel, joining the side of terrorists pretty much in every Arab nation, let us hope this does NOT start a world war, especially with a new President in office. Or is this what Biden was saying, when he said that Obama will be tested within the first six months of his Presidency? Could this push the United States into Martial Law with all the protesting going on, and possible violence between Palestinian and Israelis? Between Muslims and Jews? No, Im not a conspiracy person, as I have said and shown however, lets take a step back and look at the entire picture.
- The US is in a recession, and depression in certain areas. - Unemployment is at a 26 year high, and reaching depression numbers in certain areas. - Wall Street failing, 401ks disappearing overnight. - Banks getting a bailout, yet monthly mortgage payments rise. - Record levels of foreclosures. - More homeless. - States running out of money, asking Washington for help. - The Big 2 bailout, and deciding in Feb/March if they are solvent. - States cutting back on health care. - A war in Iraq. - A war in Afghanistan.
I’m sure I’ve missed something, but can you come up with any other time in history when all of this is going on with the United States and the world?
Gee good thing we have about a three month stockpile of food, that could be pushed to about 4 months, and it’s pretty portable too. Just time to start stocking up on water now.
