Showing posts with label Birth Certificate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Birth Certificate. Show all posts

Hawaiian Hospitals Say Obama Not Born In Their Hospitals.

12/05/2008 03:16:00 AM

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43136836Currently, there are 16 cases in 12 states (with 2 before the Supreme Court) contending that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be sworn in as President of the United States.

And before you throw this off as a tin foil rant, read the two following things, before deciding to or not to read the rest of the article.

First, I have thoroughly believed that Obama should show a “Birth Certificate” and not a “Certification of Live Birth” showing the hospital that he was born with, just to get ride of all the grief.  It’s just a piece of paper, what’s the harm of showing the requested document?  It would end the debate otherwise, Obama is going to have to deal with this for the next four years.  What’s the harm with just showing the said document, ending the controversy and earning trust in those who don’t believe he’s natural born?

Second, Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya, has publicly stated that she attended his birth at a hospital in Mombosa, Kenya, in 1961.  It has been reported that the Kenyan government has sealed Obama’s records.  If Obama was not born in Kenya and/or has never lived there, then why do records exist, that need to be sealed?  And the Kenyan Ambassador stated he was hopeful a monument is to be put in Kenya, at Obama’s birthplace.

Oh and one more thought to ponder before reading on.  Wouldn’t the hospital that delivered Obama have made an announcement for publicity purposes?

First lets take a look at what Obama had released in the past as his “birth certificate” or rather was was released was a “Certificate of Live Birth”, which is not the same document as a birth certificate according to Hawaii Law.  According to Hawaiian law, a “Birth Certificate” is a document that provides proof that a person was born in Hawaii.  Meanwhile, a “Certificate of Birth” is not the same document.

Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8:

[§338-17.8]  Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

Additionally, from Hawaii’s Department of Health, Vital Record page it states, in regards to birth records:

■   Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for
1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or
2)a person born in a foreign country

■   A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

■   From the Hawaii Department of Home Lands website
  “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green.  This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer generated printout).  Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth [not the Certification] will save you time and money since the computer generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

The document that Obama has submitted as proof is the Certification of Live Birth, not the Certificate of Live Birth.  So thus the document is “real” persay, in that it is a document of a live birth however, it is not a document that shows birth location.

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Well, it seems that Hawaiian hospitals are saying that there are no records of Obama or his mother being at any Hawaiian hospital for Obama’s birth.  Via Free Republic.

A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea, as of December 2008. 

They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago, when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu – Obama and Mom Never Here.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children – Obama and Mom Never Here.

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. 

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All of these [hospitals] were called from November 20 – December 2nd 2008.  It is confirmed, OBAMA not born in any hospital in Honolulu County!  NONE FACT!

The hospitals called were listed as:

The Queen’s Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Obama claims as his birth hospital

Kapi’ olani Medical Center Obama’s sister claims Barack Obama born here

Honolulu Shriners Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama

Straub Clinic & Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama

Hawaii Health Systems Corporation - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Cancer Institute of Maui - Wailuku, Hawaii No Comment ???

Kuakini Hospital - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Rehabilitation Hospital of the Pacific - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

St. Francis Healthcare System of Hawaii - Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Straub Heatlh - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Wahiawa General Hospital - Wahiawa, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

Wilcox Memorial Hospital - Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii  Never a patient Mom or Obama

Final thoughts to ponder.  Why are there many pictures of Obama with his mother, his father, his family, etc, but there are no pictures of him as a newborn?  Why is there more evidence showing that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, than supporting evidence that he was?  Why won’t Obama show the said document to end all the controversy, and earn trust with those who don’t believe that he is a natural born US citizen?   But instead he chooses to pay three law firms to prevent disclosure of the document in the amount of $800,000 plus to date.

Cost to Obama to get Certificate of Live Birth Certified Copy:  $10.00
Cost to Obama to pay three law firms preventing disclosure to date:  $800K+
Cost of defending the Constitution of the United States by bloggers who just want to know the truth:  PRICELESS

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Michelle Obama Tape To Be Aired. [Don’t Hold Your Breath]

11/25/2008 12:19:00 PM

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not_this_shit_again One of the big “media circus” events is the supposed tape of Michelle Obama using the term “whitey” is back.  The “Fight the Smears” website even addresses this “smear” stating

“… there is no video.  The entire thing was completely fabricated by people like [Rush] Limbaugh and [Roger] Stone who want to take Michelle and Barack down.  In fact, neither Michelle nor Barack has ever said anything remotely like the stuff Limbaugh, Stone, and the rest made up for their fantasy tape. 

This is the worst, most hateful kind of smear there is.”

Well, there is a group called the “African Press International (API)” who claims to have a copy of this tape.  They claim they have been shut down three times, “leaving us with no Internet site to release information in connection with the tape.”

“Those who were against the release went a long way to block us, but now it is our turn to be the masters.  We are finalising our release plan of the tape and the delivering of Imam’s documents to the authorities.”

They claim they are planning on releasing the tape before Thanksgiving, and they are “closing all the loopholes so that the tape may come out before or by thanksgiving day if nothing dramatic takes place.”

The plan  is to arranging a link to their new website away from their WordPress site, so that all registered readers may link in and listen to the tape a few hours before the public airing by two media broadcasting outlets, one in the US and the other in Canada.

According to the website “Stop the ACLU” the transcript of the speech where Michelle Obama allegedly uses the word “whitey” is:

“Once again, the white man keeps us down.  What’s up with Whitey? Why’d he attack Iraq?  Why’d he let Katrina happen?  Why’d he leave millions of children behind.  This is the legacy the white man gives us.”

Finding any previous posts on the API site has proven to be a little challenging.  Any posts relating to this topic seem to have disappeared, including the cache versions.  On a post dated November 22, 2008 API stated they have

“gone through all articles published between the 15th of October and the 18th of November when the Michelle Obama story broke out and realised that there were some inappropriate comments that passed through our moderation system…”  “Due to this factor, API has taken a decision to pull out temporarily all the articles with such comments and will deleted all comments before releasing back the articles”

I did however find one cached version regarding API in negotiation with FOX News on the release of the tape, dated October 21, 2008 hoping to release the tape before November 4th, 2008.

“The important thing we want the readers to know is how the tapes will be handled once it finally leaves API’s custody.  API has confidence in FOX NEWS and will allow them to decide whether the tapes will be aired in full, edited or unedited.  Once the tapes are released to FOX NEWS as per agreement that will be arrived at between the parties, API believes that FOX NEWS is competent enough to decide on how to proceed in handling the tapes because – better than us in API – they know what is best for the American listeners.

3mil_api In another 404 post titled “Obama’s Campaign Manager Offers $3 Million to API In Connection With Michelle Obama Tape”, which I happened to have found a “Snap Shots” of on a different site, API claims they were offered $3 million for the tape.

“Six hours after the release of information by API on the planned broadcast by Fox News Network of the Michelle Obama tape, in accordance with an agreement that has been reached between API and Fox News Network, API was contacted by Obama’s Campaign Manager.

Those who are close to the democratic presidential candidate must be desperate to win the elections no matter what, otherwise they would not have taken such bold step to contact API with an offer of a bribe in order to stop the airing of the tape.

Obama’s campaign manager contacted API by telephone and email offering 3 million US dollars followed with a request to API to cancel the deal with Fox News Network.

As for the Imam documents, this one I’m not sure of.  The title of the post includes “and the Imam’s birth document on Mr. Obama.”  I did a quick search for “imam obama birth” on “the Google”, and the first web site that comes up is for API.  However, the link goes to a 404 page, and clicking on the cache link shows no results.

What I did find however, was a reference to the API site stating, “A Mombasa Mosque Imam agrees to release Barack Obama’s documents of birth.”

We have stated earlier that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

A confirmation to the effect will now be forthcoming.  A Mombasa Mosque Imam has decided to release documents of birth that will indicate Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, given his middle name on the day he was born and blessed by the Imam of the day.

It is also stated that Mombasa Imam arrived in the UK seeking asylum because:

The man will join relatives in the UK because his life will be in danger if he were to return to Kenya after removing the documents from the Mosque’s archives and taking them out of the country.

The Imam is the grandson of the late Imam who blessed Barack Obama when he was born in Mombasa on the 4th of August 1961.

If the API really does have a copy of the whitey video tape, and proof that Obama wasn’t legally born in the United States, things might get ugly for a few days……  but I don’t think they have it, especially since they have been playing this record over and over since early Summer, according to some comments on API’s site.

Let see if they can dish out what they claim, or is this another “Oh no, not again” moments that never pan out with false claims.  Because seriously, if you have a tape and documents of such “evidence” you don’t need a news media to release the information.  All you need is “the Internezs”.  And if you really have an offer of $3 million from the Obama Camp, again via email, you don’t need a media outlet to release the information.  You just need “the Internezs”.  If you get shut down, you just post it somewhere else again… and again.. and again. 

Personally, I think the claim by the API to have this information is bogus.  This story as of having this information doesn’t pass the “sniff” test.  As I have said many times before about things…. Time will answer the question as to whether API actually has this information.  And ultimately, to end all the scuttlebut and rumors, all Obama needs to do is release his vault copy of his birth certificate, which he refuses to do.  Makes one wonder exactly why.

As for whether Michelle ever said something to the effect of “whitey”?  Yea, I do, simply based upon her Princeton Senior College Thesis, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4[PDF] titled “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community", which was on racial divide, and was unavailable until November 5, 2008 via Princeton however, the Obama campaign did give a copy of the thesis to Politico.

As for Obama not being a legal US natural born citizen…. lets see how Clarence Thomas handles things.  Tis not nice to step on toes on the way up regarding a Supreme Court Judge, cause you never know how hard the foot that has those toes might end up kicking your butt.  To make a long story short, Obama said he would have never nominated Thomas for Supreme Court Judge.  There is a lawsuit in NJ regarding releasing Obama’s birth certificate (not the certificate of live birth).  Donofrio, the plaintiff, presented the case has been shot down several times and appealed the case.  He took the caset to Thomas who then decided to put it on the court docket for a conference for December 5th.  If four of the nine judges decide to hear the case, then full oral arguments will be scheduled.

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